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		<title>By: ron flynn</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-71242</link>
		<dc:creator>ron flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 19:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boys who like/love boys, have nothing to come out of/for/ or from. for fucks sake its more natural to love than to hate, if anyone needs to come out its the brainwashed &quot;GOD&quot; bastards who beat people classified by their church as queers, up, for fucks sake, you have nothing to apologise for to anybody. just please get on with your lives, dont feel guilty, cos you have nothing to be guilty/ or feel guilty about. YOUR CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR. I LOVE YOU, ISNT THAT ENOUGH ?? RON +++]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boys who like/love boys, have nothing to come out of/for/ or from. for fucks sake its more natural to love than to hate, if anyone needs to come out its the brainwashed &#8220;GOD&#8221; bastards who beat people classified by their church as queers, up, for fucks sake, you have nothing to apologise for to anybody. just please get on with your lives, dont feel guilty, cos you have nothing to be guilty/ or feel guilty about. YOUR CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR. I LOVE YOU, ISNT THAT ENOUGH ?? RON +++</p>
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		<title>By: prg13</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-57039</link>
		<dc:creator>prg13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i couldn&#039;t have said it better myself! JUST BE YOU! And stick togeather boys. in a world that has dicriminated against us for 2000 years, dont do it to eachother, because of the way a guy looks, dresses, his wieght or whatever. that happens so much in the gay community, and it makes me sad. REMEMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM. the young guys dont know what it was like to be gay 20 or 30 years ago. all we have is eachother!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself! JUST BE YOU! And stick togeather boys. in a world that has dicriminated against us for 2000 years, dont do it to eachother, because of the way a guy looks, dresses, his wieght or whatever. that happens so much in the gay community, and it makes me sad. REMEMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM. the young guys dont know what it was like to be gay 20 or 30 years ago. all we have is eachother!</p>
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		<title>By: FreeFox</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-56138</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The quote makes it sound as if this queer identity and even a bourgeois gay lifestyle are bad things. We all have socially constructed idetities. We are social beings. Being accepted as part of the herd is a basic human desire. That is why tolerance is so important - exclusion is hurtful for us. So, yeah, that does imply accepting some authority by the general social order in which we live. Why wouldn&#039;t it? Adhering to rules like &quot;don&#039;t steal&quot; or &quot;don&#039;t hurt people&quot; means accepting the same authority, doesn&#039;t it? The important thing is to recieve from society the same acceptance of our desires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quote makes it sound as if this queer identity and even a bourgeois gay lifestyle are bad things. We all have socially constructed idetities. We are social beings. Being accepted as part of the herd is a basic human desire. That is why tolerance is so important &#8211; exclusion is hurtful for us. So, yeah, that does imply accepting some authority by the general social order in which we live. Why wouldn&#8217;t it? Adhering to rules like &#8220;don&#8217;t steal&#8221; or &#8220;don&#8217;t hurt people&#8221; means accepting the same authority, doesn&#8217;t it? The important thing is to recieve from society the same acceptance of our desires.</p>
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		<title>By: PenboyX</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-56117</link>
		<dc:creator>PenboyX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just another example of the necessity of NOT rushing to come out of any closet if they can possibly help it --- if for no other reasons than to just save their lives.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404891.html

There is just too many reasons for young teens to just keep quiet until it can be truly safe for them to &quot;announce&quot; their gayness. Coming out is great --- but recognize that we (in USA) still don&#039;t have a fully intelligent society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another example of the necessity of NOT rushing to come out of any closet if they can possibly help it &#8212; if for no other reasons than to just save their lives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404891.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404891.html</a></p>
<p>There is just too many reasons for young teens to just keep quiet until it can be truly safe for them to &#8220;announce&#8221; their gayness. Coming out is great &#8212; but recognize that we (in USA) still don&#8217;t have a fully intelligent society.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-56096</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with most of statements here but In the end I feel and im sure other people feel its too late. my family has raised me to be the way they think a boy should be raised and I really do believe I have lied to myself for many years because of that. it really does suck it feels alone not having anyone to tell I just dont have that friend or whatever to talk to, everyone just assumes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of statements here but In the end I feel and im sure other people feel its too late. my family has raised me to be the way they think a boy should be raised and I really do believe I have lied to myself for many years because of that. it really does suck it feels alone not having anyone to tell I just dont have that friend or whatever to talk to, everyone just assumes.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperVee</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-56063</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did we ever find more of that boy? :P
PS- not trying to ignore the statements, definitely read alot of comments, and took a lot to heart, just really think the boy is cute and would like to see more :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did we ever find more of that boy? :P<br />
PS- not trying to ignore the statements, definitely read alot of comments, and took a lot to heart, just really think the boy is cute and would like to see more :P</p>
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		<title>By: Real1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a trap....if you don&#039;t look the gay stereotype part, people will continue to assume you are hetero. I fucking hate it too...especially the political part of it all. But I don&#039;t see any other solution until someday, it&#039;s no big deal. 

My only suggestion would be to pick your battles where appropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a trap&#8230;.if you don&#8217;t look the gay stereotype part, people will continue to assume you are hetero. I fucking hate it too&#8230;especially the political part of it all. But I don&#8217;t see any other solution until someday, it&#8217;s no big deal. </p>
<p>My only suggestion would be to pick your battles where appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Real1</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-56016</link>
		<dc:creator>Real1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you don&#039;t OWN who you are at some point in your life in America, straight8&#039;s will automatically assume you&#039;re hetero. They will go out of their way to &#039;fix you up&#039; with their sisters/female friends etc, if you appear single.  Showing up at a hetero function with your gay BF could easily cause serious trouble in many venues. 

It&#039;s not enough anymore to say, &#039;none of your business&#039; and keep your sexuality to yourself,  the &#039;Don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&#039; concept hasn&#039;t worked, because it&#039;s just another suffocating closet. However, I&#039;m not saying you have to be a card-carrying homosexual and tell everyone you meet that you&#039;re gay. You pick your battles and say it were appropriate.......common sense, in a majority world filled with heteros.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t OWN who you are at some point in your life in America, straight8&#8242;s will automatically assume you&#8217;re hetero. They will go out of their way to &#8216;fix you up&#8217; with their sisters/female friends etc, if you appear single.  Showing up at a hetero function with your gay BF could easily cause serious trouble in many venues. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough anymore to say, &#8216;none of your business&#8217; and keep your sexuality to yourself,  the &#8216;Don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8217; concept hasn&#8217;t worked, because it&#8217;s just another suffocating closet. However, I&#8217;m not saying you have to be a card-carrying homosexual and tell everyone you meet that you&#8217;re gay. You pick your battles and say it were appropriate&#8230;&#8230;.common sense, in a majority world filled with heteros.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes that&#039;s the way it is for me too, Sergio. I grew up in the church. My dad is a pastor. Imagine THAT scenario, haha!! I don&#039;t think many of the members know that, since I did leave. 

One of the hardest parts for me was that I was sort of chaperoning the church youth group for the last time to a huge event called CreationFest, which is like a Christian version of Woodstock.

That was after I broke up with my first boyfriend, mind you. I was in the gutter for a lot of it, felt so damn lost and confused and REALLY angered at so many of the speakers there who spoke out openly against homosexuality and sinfulness, etc, comparing it to Ancient Greece and how the men back then engaged in pederasty and kept young boys as sex slaves.

But that&#039;s just how they think of us, and it will take a couple hundred years to break out of that cycle, even if we are making slow progress.

For me, I ended up making new friends who accepted me for who I am, my family accepts me which I&#039;m SO grateful for, but I didn&#039;t really stay friends with many people from the church because I know what they think of me, even if they don&#039;t say it. 

It&#039;s not so bad if you&#039;re not living in a staunchly religious community. I hope and pray you&#039;re as lucky as I have been. 

At work and out in public, I usually don&#039;t tell anyone unless they ask me. If they assume I am, then oh well. When I worked at a department store last year, they asked if I had a girlfriend. I just say no and if they ask, I tell them I just don&#039;t want one.

Even if I believe people would accept me, I don&#039;t actually know how they&#039;re going to react, so I tiptoe around the question and if they ask me if I like boys, I just answer yes. 

It&#039;s a bit...I&#039;d say like grinding your teeth, because it feels like you&#039;re hiding your whole life from people. I mean I&#039;m sure any gay knows that a whole WORLD of possibilities and conversations opens up completely when you come out to someone. 

It doesn&#039;t have to be like that forever though. I&#039;ve come out to those I&#039;m close to and also members of my family who I know are okay with it. But people who don&#039;t need to know, I&#039;d just say don&#039;t tell them. 

It&#039;s your life, you have to be who you are, but it isn&#039;t necessary to tell them all the details. Only you can be the judge of who you think would accept it. Like I said...if you&#039;re not living in a staunchly religious community, it&#039;s a lot easier. Most people where I live don&#039;t care. 

I hope it&#039;s the same for you, and I wish you all the luck in the world =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes that&#8217;s the way it is for me too, Sergio. I grew up in the church. My dad is a pastor. Imagine THAT scenario, haha!! I don&#8217;t think many of the members know that, since I did leave. </p>
<p>One of the hardest parts for me was that I was sort of chaperoning the church youth group for the last time to a huge event called CreationFest, which is like a Christian version of Woodstock.</p>
<p>That was after I broke up with my first boyfriend, mind you. I was in the gutter for a lot of it, felt so damn lost and confused and REALLY angered at so many of the speakers there who spoke out openly against homosexuality and sinfulness, etc, comparing it to Ancient Greece and how the men back then engaged in pederasty and kept young boys as sex slaves.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just how they think of us, and it will take a couple hundred years to break out of that cycle, even if we are making slow progress.</p>
<p>For me, I ended up making new friends who accepted me for who I am, my family accepts me which I&#8217;m SO grateful for, but I didn&#8217;t really stay friends with many people from the church because I know what they think of me, even if they don&#8217;t say it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so bad if you&#8217;re not living in a staunchly religious community. I hope and pray you&#8217;re as lucky as I have been. </p>
<p>At work and out in public, I usually don&#8217;t tell anyone unless they ask me. If they assume I am, then oh well. When I worked at a department store last year, they asked if I had a girlfriend. I just say no and if they ask, I tell them I just don&#8217;t want one.</p>
<p>Even if I believe people would accept me, I don&#8217;t actually know how they&#8217;re going to react, so I tiptoe around the question and if they ask me if I like boys, I just answer yes. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit&#8230;I&#8217;d say like grinding your teeth, because it feels like you&#8217;re hiding your whole life from people. I mean I&#8217;m sure any gay knows that a whole WORLD of possibilities and conversations opens up completely when you come out to someone. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t have to be like that forever though. I&#8217;ve come out to those I&#8217;m close to and also members of my family who I know are okay with it. But people who don&#8217;t need to know, I&#8217;d just say don&#8217;t tell them. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s your life, you have to be who you are, but it isn&#8217;t necessary to tell them all the details. Only you can be the judge of who you think would accept it. Like I said&#8230;if you&#8217;re not living in a staunchly religious community, it&#8217;s a lot easier. Most people where I live don&#8217;t care. </p>
<p>I hope it&#8217;s the same for you, and I wish you all the luck in the world =)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://milkboys.org/fuck-closets/#comment-55976</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I somewhat agree, however I HATE the word &quot;faggot&quot; used to describe anything other than the rotten, dirty type of homosexual I so disdain who engages in many acts of promiscuity and picks up a new guy at the club every week...which is one of the biggest reasons we don&#039;t have marriage rights yet, and also the reason homosexuals are blamed for a mass amount of STDs in America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I somewhat agree, however I HATE the word &#8220;faggot&#8221; used to describe anything other than the rotten, dirty type of homosexual I so disdain who engages in many acts of promiscuity and picks up a new guy at the club every week&#8230;which is one of the biggest reasons we don&#8217;t have marriage rights yet, and also the reason homosexuals are blamed for a mass amount of STDs in America.</p>
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