Keep Calm and Read Shota
In a landmark case the Swedish Supreme Court decided that Shota and Lolicon are legal. A Swedish manga-translator has been cleared of child pornography charges in a case that has sparked debate about whether cartoon characters can be considered people. Simon Lundstroem had appealed to the Supreme Court against his conviction for possessing 39 sexual images depicting young-looking characters drawn in manga style.
While child pornography is illegal in Sweden as it is everywhere, it wasn’t clear whether the definition extended to drawn characters. The court ruled that all images of fantasy figures can not be considered as images of real children. While potentially offensive to some, the images posed a substantially lower risk of provoking abuse against children than realistic ones, the judges found. They said it was important to recognise that manga cartoons are deeply rooted in Japanese culture.
Freedom of speech campaigners will take heart from the judges’ contention that criminalising the possession of such images would be an infringement of the freedom of speech and of information. The chair of the Swedish Writers’ Union, Mats Soederlund, had been concerned that Swedish law was at risk of "forbidding fantasies". "To punish the possession of such drawings is a threat to the freedom of speech and art," he said.
The verdict was also applauded by the child pornography unit of the Swedish police who warned that investigating such cases was a dangerous waste of resources. They argued that there would have been a risk that the focus will shift from combating pictures and films of real child abuse to a discussion of whether we will judge drawings of fantasy figures as child pornography or art. "Let us not forget that it is children we must protect and not put imaginary figures on an equal footing with them." they said. [via BBC News and The Local]



about 11 months ago
Although I understand that shota images can be found offensive by some people, that doesn’t mean they should be illegal.
I agree with the courts decision and with tho police saying when it comes to child porn there are far more urgent cases to be investigate then the possession on shota.
Possessing shota doesn’t harm anyone and making it illegal would stigmatise a lot of innocent people.
about 11 months ago
Sweden leads the world in rationality once again! =) Thank you Josh for always helping to expand my very extensive list of reasons why I want to move to Sweden in the future =) Not that shotacon itself is a reason of course, but the rationale behind many of their legal decisions is a HUGE part of what attracts me. One of the few countries these days who thinks objectively rather than allowing religion or other petty organizations to undermine proper reasoning.
about 11 months ago
You might consider Eugene Oregon. It is gay friendly and has a 60′s-70′s culture. I retired here two yearss ago and now live with all the refugees from California to get away from violent crime and hostile, racist street culture and having to listen to (c)rap music at every stoplight. It may not be Sweden but the weather is mild and it is the friendlist place I have ever lived in the U.S. We have hippies, tweekers and homeless here but almost O violent crime despite real poverty and high unemployment. It is a great place to retire and be a Duck fan.
about 11 months ago
(C)rap music? LOL!
Just add one letter and everything becomes clear.
Sounds like a nice place, too.
about 11 months ago
Hurray, someone finally has common sense!!! Cartoons are just that, cartoons, and art is art. Some people need to get a life, and simply not support what they don’t like, and let others do the same.
about 11 months ago
You can hear Goristic’s bitching from here!
about 11 months ago
I really feel sorry for the guy. There must have been some personal trauma behind his rants.
about 11 months ago
I’m proudest of Sweden right now for remembering their priorities. Ironically enough, witch hunting people who like loli and shota detracts from the ability of the police to investigate crimes against actual children, rather than prosecuting people jerking off to drawn images. They set an example in more ways than one that other countries could learn from.
about 11 months ago
when drawing or thinking of “a crime” (if it is one) is punished, we’re all doomed, cause then, they’ll control what we think. its okay to control what we do, when killing/harming real people is involved, but everything aside from that is not the societys business. i can understand, that some might feel hurt by that drawings, but whats about all the movies/comics where women get raped? where people get murdered, turtured or whatever? ART is free, and it should remain so.
the much more interesting question might be, why so many people read those mangas! and who reads them! (as youngsters 12-17) read them, its okay to me, and out of any question, but when adults (30-99) read those it gets some weird part (only in my opinion). not that i judge s.o., but that might be a question.
we all must be very cautious what happens next in these issues.
about 11 months ago
>While child pornography is illegal in Sweden as it is everywhere
I heard possession was legal in Russia and Japan? Has it changed?
about 11 months ago
Not all collectors of shota/loli are pedophiles, but if anything, its existence provides a safe outlet for those who might otherwise be abusing actual children or contributing to the dissemination of real child porn. There is literally no downside for anybody.
about 11 months ago
Excellent verdict from the court!
Otherwise, if someone were to draw a picture of themselves robbing a bank, would that person be arrested for bank robbery?
about 11 months ago
Great analogy.
about 11 months ago
How convenient! It’s drawn and not videotaped, so that makes it okay? But, to each his own, I suppose.
about 11 months ago
eh… yeah? why wouldn’t it?
about 11 months ago
yeah, it’s different because nobody is victimized that way.
about 11 months ago
I want to live in THAT country…
about 11 months ago
I approve of the verdict because of its logical reasoning and because it helps people to study this type of manga as part of Japanese culture without being in danger of breaking the law. Still, I feel that people should ponder carefully why they want to read that kind of stuff.
about 11 months ago
I don’t really think about it anymore than I think about people that like scat porn. Like, I find it gross, but I don’t judge people for it; and hopefully they don’t judge me for, say, liking shota.
about 11 months ago
I’ve just looked up the definition of “scat porn”. Aaaargh. Ignorance is indeed bliss. Anyway, the whole Shôtacon issue would be worth discussing in a thread. It’s a shame that the last thread about it got totally wrecked.
about 11 months ago
I’m glad Sweden’s government has sense.
about 11 months ago
@Pete: You keep talking about moving to Sweden,well go,whose stopping you. As for the Swedish ruling,I’am in complete agreement with it,but I’am not ready to jump ship and move to Sweden. I love this country and have found no comparision to this great land.
about 11 months ago
You must be blind Michael. Either that, or you haven’t looked around very much, especially in Asia which is blowing America away in every regard including freedom of sexual tastes. This way to the showers, Michael.
about 11 months ago
I strongly caution against pointing out the showers, whether it would be Sandusky or anyone like him. I mean, we’re all supposed to be covered up and ‘decent’, right Micheal? ;P
about 11 months ago
Hate me for this, but i actually enjoy shotacon
about 11 months ago
I second that notion. I don’t see what’s wrong with it, and don’t really care for those against it or what they have to say.
about 11 months ago
Personally I think that any adult that enjoys looking at these images just uses them basically because it’s illegal to be in possession of child porn. Afterall fantasies are fantasies! Oh and btw, I don’t like Shotacon.
about 11 months ago
Look Chalky: If your preference is ASIA,well then go. Don’t write comments about how they are blowing America away,just go, I’am sure they well welcome you with open arms and a zipper. I’am not blind and if you think that the taking of some young boy into the showers by some old degenerate is the new freedom of sexual taste,the you are not only blind,but out of your head. It is because of people like Sandusky,that parents are teaching their children not to talk or get involved with strangers,or with people they think they may know. This Sandusky shit gives gays a bad rap,and this shit head not even gay. So go to Asia and have your fun in the showers. By the way the Zipper is for your mouth in case you where wondering.
about 11 months ago
By the way Chalky: If Asia is so great,then why is the Immigration of Asians into this blown away America,so high at this point. I’am not talking about uneducate Asians,I’am talking about Asians with college degrees who are working to make this land great. Yes you should go,as to make room for an Asian Immingrate who would work and help to make America great.
about 11 months ago
Wow – these threads sure get personal [& political] quite quick…
I thought the last shota-post was informative and the thread civil [mostlly] while entertaining individual viewpoints on this topic; which IS of interest to EVERYONE who likes to think about and/or look at images & such that the rest of society might not whole-heartedly endorse.
My I <3 Mags example was excellent & i hope to increase my Shota collection as soon as finances & opportunity allow.
PEACE, y'all !
about 11 months ago
Dear Michael, I gently remind you about the ad hominem attacks warned against by our illustrious host last week. I have no idea why you wrote such a poor response, grammar and spelling, against the contention here. I am sure you are a perfectly well-educated and intelligent individual who perhaps had a little too much to drink. But as such you are coming across as a nationalistic, incoherent and poorly educated American. Just stop it and think. Behave.
about 6 months ago
Have you ever thought that why the boys erotic elements such as beardless face soft voice and hairless bodies with soft skin? They are beautifull as girls as men in all of the history have had sex with them inside any culture and nation so I think that have a relationship for example with a beautiful 10 years old boy is not classified just as homosexulaity its natural sex pedophile is not bad word it means who love kids