Mama Rainbow
A new documentary by prolific LGBT filmmaker Fan Popo focusing on the growing numbers of out and proud mothers of gay children in China was released online this week on Queer Comrades.
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about 8 months ago
Nice to see such positive attitudes of these caring and accepting parents of their gay children in China, and the progress of PFLAG there. Like so many other places in the world, China accepted homosexuality as quite normal in their ancient past. Now if only the majority of parents everywhere in the world would react in such a positive manner to their lgbt children, It’d be wonderful. :)
about 8 months ago
Years ago, China’s murderous dictatorship decreed a “one child per family” law which resulted in 120 males being born for every 100 females. They’re trying to correct that now, but it will take years to do. Right now, there are 24,000,000 to 50,000,000 (depending on who does the estimate) young males for whom there are no mates. Except their ‘mates.’
China will experience a wave of unavoidable homosexuality not caused by nature, or nurture, but by politics. But there is a potential dark side. Cultures suffering a gender imbalace in history have adopted extreme policies. Islamic tribes lost so many men spreading the faith by the sword that the surviving men were granted 4 wives. Might Chinese women be allowed multiple husbands? The precedent for a shortage of women was set by the early Romans – with the famous “rape” of the Sabine women. Men will fight to obtain women – the instinct for reproduction will not be easily subdued when women are available in neighboring nations. Hopefully the sheer size of the Chinese state will drown out the impassioned cries of horny single men, and no effort will be made to capture brides for them.
about 8 months ago
@horselips is so right,because after so many females being aborted,you have a nation overrun with males. @ DAVEDOG: In China’s ancient past homosexuality was not the normal thing at all. Just think in this land if all goes the Obama way a woman can have what ever gender she wants. If it not what she want,just abort it. Try again.
about 8 months ago
Michael you are incorrect. I quote: “Homosexuality in China historically was regarded as a normal facet of life[1] and the existence of homosexuality in China has been well documented since ancient times.” If you don’t believe me, I invite you to check out the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_China
In future, you may want to check out the facts before you go off contradicting someone here. I’m mystified by your remarks about “the Obama way” as this doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the remarks I made. Also, there is no need for name calling here.
-daveboy
about 8 months ago
Thanks for the link. Not surprising to read that the western influece of christian and islamic religions have altered China’s views on homosexuality.
about 8 months ago
Michael:
“Just think in this land if all goes the Obama way a woman can have what ever gender she wants. If it not what she want,just abort it. Try again.”
Your near total ignorance of “choice” and your full ignorance of blindly believing everything the church tells you, just astounds me.
Just because we [those who accept individual freedoms & rights] believe in their choice, that is not “carte blanche” for/that all pregnant women will/to abort for [your] ridiculous reasons. What’s really so incredibly stupid with you “believers” is that if biology were “reversed,” you fail to acknowledge that you would demand full control of, you know, your own body (I guess that’s the major reason that circumcision still stands for absolutely stupid religious reasons, only because you “believers” demand full control of everyone else, hence the real and primary purpose of religion.)
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“In China’s ancient past homosexuality was not the normal thing at all.”
Again, you show you don’t know jack shit about cultures. In fact, homosexuality was considerably more normal and common than you think — just as it was in Japan’s history (commonly known as Feudal Japan). And I suspect very similar in Korea. It was extremely common for an older man to take in a younger male (teens and older) to be their apprentice in a particular field. Sword forging/making is one that comes to mind right now. Another is just to be a warrior. And it was common knowledge that the older would have his way with the younger as at least “partial payment” [or your own description] and the younger would gain necessary experience in his ‘chosen’ field.
Please grow up and actually learn something about cultures other than your asinine religious culture. (And even for that you are amazingly ignorant.)
about 8 months ago
@Penboy: Just think,if you can,that you would not be calling me stupid or ignorant if your mom had made a choice to abort you. As for circumcision,that’s not a religious thing with Christians, it was a health thing,which they don’t push as much as they did when I was born. Just because a older men took in a younger male to be their apprentice doesn’t mean that he was having sex with the boy. This was a way of training a lad in a vocation. They didn,t have schools for this kind of training. Remember your not all that smart. You told me that chocolate was OK for dogs. You even said that if it was bad why is it advertised for pets. Well the chocolate that is advertised for pets is not real chocolate. Look it up. What chocolate does to dogs. As for demanding full control of my body that is why that when I was 18 I had my circumcision,because when I was born my mother had a German doctor who told her that Hilter was going to win that war and I be better off with my foreskin. You still are as hatefull as ever. What did you think of that great 2/3 vote to let God back on the Democrats Platform? I guess you where one pissed off atheist. Of course from what I saw the anti-God people had the vote. You can’t even win at a democrate convention. I hope you have a good day and a good life.
about 8 months ago
How do I count the ways of your ignorance? Let me see:
One:
“Just think,if you can,that you would not be calling me stupid or ignorant if your mom had made a choice to abort you.”
If I had been aborted, I’m pretty damn sure I wouldn’t be thinking and you wouldn’t be writing about me.
Two:
“As for circumcision,that’s not a religious thing with Christians, it was a health thing,which they don’t push as much as they did when I was born.”
That can’t get any more stupid. The religious have never given a flying fuck about the health as long as they can cut that foreskin off. Interesting that it’s suppposed to represent some sort of “covenant” with god, jesus, or moses (just pick your idol with [the longest?] beard) but, in Michelangelo’s painting of jc on the cross, he is uncircumcised and he was, you know, a jew — in fact, the “king of jews” [inri].
I know this isn’t for you, but to the intelligent: Isn’t it bizarre that a cult [and that's all it is] who condemns the idea of men thinking about penises, has, as their primary piece of “proof for their god,” touching, fondling and cutting the foreskin off of young boys’ penises?
Three:
“Just because a older men took in a younger male to be their apprentice doesn’t mean that he was having sex with the boy.”
For an incredible number of them, …. the fuck they didn’t (literally). It is well documented and not only that, with the full permission of his parents because to them, that was a small price to pay for a “master of his craft” to be a mentor for him and learn a worthy craft. This way was so common, that it was expected by both the boy and his parents, usually without even being spoken.
And you’re still on that chocolate mess? You really have only a one-track mind.
about 8 months ago
Great documentary. Not easy to be gay in a culture so much based on family and lineage, yet those mums make a great job. But where are the fathers ?
about 8 months ago
@ Penboy and Milkboys: I can see that you are not permitted to disagree with the great Penboy on Milkboys. In # One. The my statement the first time I stated that if his mom had aborted penboy we would not be having this disgustion. In#TWO. About circumcision. When it comes to Christian males it was and to this day a health thing. Not a Religious thing. I see you brought Michelangelo’s so called painting of Christ in the nude on the cross. I have never seen Christ nude on the cross,and I didn’t know Michelangelo was painting in Christ life time. #Three. I don’t think much of your documentions,and the Chocolate thing was to show that your not always correct as you would like to believe.
about 8 months ago
You’re free to disagree with anyone. What you are doing ‘tho is insulting people left and right and as I pointed out before, if someone can’t argue without calling people names they won’t see their comments being approved.
http://milkboys.org/article/little-reminder-about-comments/
about 8 months ago
@ Milkboys: I disagree with Penboy 90% of the time because he keeps blaming Religion for all the wrongs in the world. He has called me stupid,ignorant,dumb,because I choose to believe in God. I don’t much care if he wants to be a Atheist,but I do care that he seems to see fit to down grade my believe with total disrespect. I can stand the disrespect he shows me,but I refuse to stand for the disrespect he shows my religion. I respect his right to be an Atheist as he should respect my right to believe in God. After all the rights of this Country where established as God given rights.