Periodical Political Post *122

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  1. So what next for Assange? Does he expect to spend years of his life confined in the Ecuadorian embassy in London? He might as well spend the time in prison in Sweden.

    1. It’s not Swedish prison he fears (he’s not even accused of anything in Sweden, they just want to question him). It’s the death penalty in third world countries like the USA he’s concerned about.

      1. Neither Sweden nor the UK will extradite people without assurances that they will not face the death penalty. What I am unable to grasp is why Assange seems to think he is at a greater risk of being extradited from Sweden than from the UK, which has a ludicrously one-sided extradition treaty with the US.

          1. That is what I was trying to say… lol.

            No really, that was a good read and I am more knowledgable for it. Thank you. :)

  2. Julian Assange tried to fight the big business, and he succeeded making the big Elefants really angry.
    What we see now, is these elefangs pressing on Britain an Swede to get Assange into jurisdiction in the USA, where he would have no – NO – chance of defending himself, — even the ecuadorian embassy’s people stated that as the reason for granting Assange political asylum. Mind you, the US- jurisdiction is accused of not giving Assange a fair process – And all in the name of those big elefants In the USA, THAT want to see him punished -best with death penalty!

    What Assange would have to expect during a US-trial can be seen in an Articles Milkboy set online:
    26 Billionaires choose he next – GOP? – president – of the USA.

    It is really a big shame how far Right US-justice has been driven by the George W. Bush administration.
    And in my eyes its a shame how helpless the liberals seemed to accept that without too much resistance.
    This goes also for the hate-fight that has started in the USA, including imprisoning part of their KIDS/youth just because they are LGBT-youth.

    1. “miles” wrote:
      ‘What we see now, is these elefangs pressing on Britain an Swede to get Assange into jurisdiction in the USA, where he would have no – NO – chance of defending himself’

      You make the United States sound like a tinpot dictatorship where there is no judicial independence and no rule of law. That is not so; the American judiciary are in particular strong defenders of the freedom of speech.

      Assange has not been charged with any offence in the US, and it is not even clear what offence he could be charged with, and the Americans have made no move to have him extradited.

      In Sweden, on the other hand, he is under suspicion of subjecting two women to sexual violence. There are serious allegations, and he should have the courage to go to Sweden to face them.

      1. “You make the United States sound like a tinpot dictatorship where there is no judicial independence and no rule of law. That is not so; the American judiciary are in particular strong defenders of the freedom of speech.”
        Didn’t you read what I wrote?

        “Julian Assange tried to fight the big business, and he succeeded making the big Elefants really angry.
        What we see now, is these elefants pressing on Britain an Swede to get Assange into jurisdiction in the USA, where he would have no – NO – chance of defending himself, ”

        What I reallyy wrote is about the vast influence of the Elefants in the USA nowadays.

        You wrote: “That is not so; the American judiciary are in particular strong defenders of the freedom of speech.”

        So, why do the US-Elefants want Assange sooo badly, that they make up a cause of raping in Swede against him, just to get him into the USA via Breat Britain and Swede??

        They even pressed Britain to use force against the Ecuadorian embassy, to get their dirty hands on Assange.

        please rethink, by answering the questions I wrote.
        And there is another “Please”: What I wrote is not against the USA, it is dealing with the influence of the Elefants – the big big money.

        1. “miles” wrote:
          ‘Julian Assange tried to fight the big business, and he succeeded making the big Elefants really angry.’

          No need for elephants, the Yanks are angry with Assange for revealing their secrets. The simplest explanations are usually the best.

          ‘They even pressed Britain to use force against the Ecuadorian embassy, to get their dirty hands on Assange.’

          The Brits issued a crude diplomatic bluff which backfired; Correa can now say GB is bullying a small country and most Ecuadorians will believe him. He was always hoping that granting asylum to Assange in the teeth of rich countries like the US, Britain and Sweden would make him popular at home.

  3. GUARD SHOT: 15 Chic-Fil-A sandwiches in his backpack? Yummm.
    HIV VACCINE: ‘Bout time.
    ECUADOR & ASSANGE: The US has preferred no charges of any kind against Mr. Assange. BUT, now that the CIA knows where he is, it should be a simple matter for a sniper with a silenced rifle to take the bastard out.
    VOTER SUPPRESSION: What caca-del-toro. God forbid elections should be squeaky clean. There is no suppression in intent or in fact in demanding a valid ID from a voter at the polls. If the rules only applied to certain people, then you’d have a case for suppression, but the rules apply to everyone, with ample accomodations for assisting the poor and handicapped with compliance.
    SCOUTS: This sort of thing was common in every organization, including public schools, all with good intentions and in the intererst of protecting the identity of victims. But when victims started getting rich for their trouble, the game changed, and victims, encouraged by Ka-Ching! can’t wait to be identified. Oh how I wish I had been molested as a child. Imagine – the thrill of precocious sex followed by early retirement with big bucks in the bank. Sigh. I’ll probably have to work forever – my relatives never die in the right order. FYI – repeated studies have shown that boys are rarely if ever scarred by sexual ‘abuse.’ They just chalk it up to experience. Girls, however, are often severely psychologically damaged. Viva la difference.
    SUICIDE: A drug dealer kills himself. So what?
    FUKUSHIMA BUTTERFLIES: Forget the insects – I’m waiting for the big lizard to show up and stomp Tokyo. Godzilla! Call your office! You’re ON!

    1. Not true about girls “often” being “severely psychologically damaged,” sorry. Some women who experience father-incest have psychiatric problems but these are probably better explained as conditions inhereted from parents.

      1. I was just recalling what I had read a long time ago-if your informationis better or more up to date, I gladly defer to your expertise. It’s nice to know that in most cases of abuse, there’s no harm done.

  4. Well done Ecuador.

    Sweeden have not supplied enough evidence for extradition. This is key to why it hasn’t happened yet.

    Extradition from the UK is very difficult because of the way our laws work with European laws. As far as I am aware it is not the same in Sweeden. Swiss law take precedent over european law so extradition would be easier for political prisoners.

    If Assange was extradited from Sweeden to the US, he would not get a fair trial. To be fair he would have to have the opportunity to reasonable defence if front of a jury that has no prior knowledge of the individual or any opinion on the guilt of the individual prior to trial. This just would not happen. everybody in the US knows how embarrassing wikileaks has been for the US government. If they could not take him to trial he would probably end up in guantanamo bay as a terror threat and be refused the opportunity of a fair trial.

    1. Rob-M wrote:
      ‘Well done Ecuador.’

      It will do Assange no good at all. He is still a fugitive from Swedish justice holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

      ‘Sweeden have not supplied enough evidence for extradition. This is key to why it hasn’t happened yet.’

      It was enough for the British courts. It is very hard to go against a European arrest warrant. As soon as Assange steps outside the embassy, he will be arrested and packed off to Sweden.

    1. It wasn’t deleted, it was just queued in the spam filter and had to be manually approved.

      1. Every single message I post goes off to be manually moderated. Can anyone explain how I can avoid that?


  5. horselips:

    SUICIDE: A drug dealer kills himself. So what?

    I honestly don’t care of what he might have been accused of or even found guilty of. The man may have been executed. The man was searched TWICE for a weapon. None were found and he shoots himself in the head while having his hands cuffed in his back? Add to this the fact that he had called his girlfriend telling her he would see her in the cop shop jail.

    And anyway, since when is the life a human being worth less than an other for you to so easily dismiss him as though he was just a dog?

    1. The life of a drug dealer is not just worth less, it is worth nothing. Convicted drug dealers should be trained as gladiators, and forced to fight to the death in NFL stadiums during half-time. Paramutuel wagering would offset the cost of the program. If the fans like it, we could train the terrorists at Guantanamo as well. Those who refuse to fight would be scourged and crucified. Hmmm, I seem to be having a “Roman Empire” moment here. LOL

      1. He is not a criminal, he is a businessman. He sells things that people like. Somebody likes ice-cream, somebody likes cocaine. It is not for neo-puritans like you to decide what other people must eat, drink, or smoke.

        1. A legitimate government, specifically an elected legislature, passed a bill, signed into law by an elected president, and upheld by an independent judiciary, that says your businessman is a criminal. The regulatory and police power of the state also allows it to decide not only what you may drink, eat or smoke, but at what age you might qualify for a wider range of options in those areas. It gets better. If your property happens to be in the way of something, you might experience the wonders of eminent domain. In times of war, the government may actually assume all rights to your very body itself. Say hello to conscription. I can assure you similar laws exist in your country.

          FYI, as a subject of the British Commonwealth, you might want to contemplate this > During WW2, Parliament passed a law placing the life, property and talent of every subject of His Majesty at the disposal of the Crown.
          That means you, everything you own, and every skill you might have, was given by the stroke of a pen to your most gracious sovereign. Welcome to monarchy. George VI was given more legal power by Parliament than the Reichstag gave to Adolf Hitler. That law has never been repealed. Keep Calm & Carry On.

          Still think you get to decide what you eat, drink or smoke? See you in court. Then see you in jail. Bon voyage.

  6. Your so right Asiffeta. Miles must think we just take them out and hang the poor bastards with out a trail. First of all we don’t want the bastard in this country.Second of all Sweden wants him for guestioning in the RAPE of two girls. Well he can hide his ass in that Ecuadorian Embassy for as long as they well have. Once he steps off that embassy ground area his ass is in English hands and then they’ll give him to Sweden. I would think that that embassy is better then being in Ecuador. I just don’t understand some of you gay folks,you are making a hero out of someone wanted in the questioning of two rapes,and he is hiding in some embassy. I would say that he looking like he’s got something too hide,but yet you still make him out to be this modern day hero. I have no clue where your heads are.

    1. Everything you are saying is wrong, wrong, wrong. First, Assange never was accused of rape. Second, even accusations of “sex without condoms” were dropped by Swedish authorities. Third, then they were picked up again. Only very naïve folks can think it was done without American pressure. Forth, Assange has good reasons to fear for his freedom and even his life. He knows perfectly that Sweden is just a short stop on the road to Guantanamo. He knows perfectly how much American establishment hates him. He knows perfectly what happened to Bradley Manning.
      Yes, he is a hero. If I could I’d give him ( and Manning) the Nobel Peace Prize. But this will never happen. The Nobel Committee consists of Wall Street’s and Pentagon’s puppets ( as well as British and Swedish governments) and prefers to award mass murderers like Al Gore and Barak Obama rather than real men.
      I’m not a fan of Ecuadorian government. They are just a bunch of crazy leftists. But they at least have guts, unlike their spineless European counterparts. ( I respect only brave and independent enemies :) )

        1. Sigh… Asiffeta, you are such a child… Believe everything authorities tell you?
          Do you really don’t understand that it is a political process having nothing to the cooked-up “sex crime?”
          “horselips” is on your side but he at least understands what it is about.

          1. Not at all, dear boy, not at all!

            I just have difficulty with implausible conspiracy scenarios. If the Yanks want Assange, they can get him easily by appealing to the UK, a country notorious for wanting to please America in order to preserve the so-called Special Relationship. Assange is not even a citizen, so few will be prepared to put up a fight.

            But consider this: suppose Assange eventually makes it to Ecuador; now, if he is considered an enemy of the state, all Mr Obama has to do is sign a piece of paper and he is dead in a week. That’s the kind of power the Yanks have!

            1. I see nothing new there. Of course the US authorities would like to try him, but they have not yet established (via their grand jury) that he has a case to answer. Once the grand jury has reported, then we shall have some clarity.

        2. while the article is interesting, some of the comments following it are even more so…

  7. Alex Ulrich, murdered in Baltimore, was a friend of my roommate. There are some who think this was either a deal gone wrong or because he had annoyed another wolf clan. (What you won’t read in the paper.)

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